About Wappler and its small community

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#1

The problem Teodor is Wappler has a very small footprint and users need answers quickly. There is no where for them such as Stackflow, which provides a myriad of optional answers to problems from a myraid of contributors. Apart from this very small community to source answers its some what of a closed shop, which cant be good for the product in general or its users.

From what I’ve seen it’s a very few small handful of regulars that contibute. If they dont know the answer it’s down to you or George or Patrick. Personally I cant wait 1 day for an answer or even 2 hours so a coded solution is better to fill in that time should anyone else not respond with a more Wappler centric solution.

Both solution work equally well and achieve the same effect. I can’t help your disappreciation of a bloated jQuery answer. Have you ever taken a moment to add up all the dmx js files, plus the bootstrap.js boootrap.popper.

The bootstrap js unless you use ALL the components has excess bloating as does the bootstrap css file…just saying.

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#2

You are going off topic and that’s not really helping anybody. I can provide 3 different non jQuery solutions which will work the same and that is not the point here.
When an option included in the UI of Wappler, the users don’t need any custom coding.

Talking about size - just for your info, our very small community has grown to 3500 users, in less than 11 months after the release of Wappler.

Please let’s not continue spamming the topic, after a solution has been provided.

#3

3500 where are they all? I don’t see them in this forum sharing answers or asking questions so they are either expert Wapplers who require no help or use very little of Wappler that they require no help.

But its as I said ONLY you know your product inside out and was able to provide that centric wappler answer. That would have been all over Stackflow in many replies had we been talking about real coding…so you have a problem of not being able to get the information out to users fast enough or in greater numbers.

One reason I could not use Wappler (not that I would) but I couldnt get the answers I need fast enough. I’m totally reliant on a small community. For some that might be ok for many I suspect thats a deal breaker.

#4

Oh well, then you can just spend your time in stackoverflow and help the people in need there :slight_smile: we don’t need any spam in our small community.

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#5

I dont call provding a genuine answer as spam. I was more concerned the OP had waited some time before I responded and then you quickly intervened so as I see it I did a good job for one of your users which is all Im concerned about - people get the answers and dont get frustrated with Wappler. Its a win, win situation.

#6

@the_coder. You totally miss the point of Wappler. It is a " Visual Web App Creator", not a coding platform.
We have all done the coding thing, i have been coding in multiple languages for over 40 years. The whole point of Wappler is that is can take the drudge out of lots of tasks which can be automated rather than hand coded and opens up full stack to those previously only doing front end.
After 40 years of coding I now do 98% wappler and 2% custom coding and I am much more productive as a result.

So why are you here, if it is so against your beliefs why bother coming to the forum?

If you want to hand code go download a copy of Notepad++ and get on with it

And on the StackOverflow issues (at least learn its name correctly) it is 90% wrong/ misleading answers integrated with unnecessarily complex answers so the author looks clever. It is always my last resort.

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#7

If wappler wants to big company . you have to review some issues.
*suggestion

#8

Brian I follow all kinds of web-development workflows and make it my job to know how they work. I regularly drop into the forum to see what is going on and what progress has been made.

I ask myself would I ever use Wappler, could I ever see myself using Wappler. As yet no, because it doesnt have the wide spread support I would need as a developer who moves things quickly. I can feel the frustration of many posters asking what are relatively easy or simple questions but not knowing how to achieve that with Wappler or can it even be achieved with Wappler.

The reason I responded is because the OP had not received an answer and I had a genuine solution, albeit using code. Code was better than nothing. I knew quite possibly Teodor would intervene quickly if there was a Wappler centric answer so in effect I got the OP the answer they wanted. Thats a job well done to me.

And no I’m not missing the point. The only point is to get the job done with Wappler or by some other means or are you saying if no one provides a Wappler centric answer then there can’t be an answer.

#9

I think it’s time to lock this thread.

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#10

I just moved the off topic posts to the coffee lounge category, where anyone can discuss anything related or not related to Wappler :slight_smile:

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#11

I moved out of DW and into Wappler and my skill level is designer, not coder but not without some. I have a lot of pc-based database experience (Clarion, Dbase, Paradox) and even with MySQL in the last few years, but nothing on the scale that Wappler has allowed me in the last few months when I became a member. I have never had the easily learned functions that Wappler has simplified.

I am already more literate with Wappler than any web publishing app I have used in the past decades. As a matter of fact, I have never been more excited about an application since I got my first copy of Clarion in 1983.

Brian, thanks - your videos have been immensely helpful. I look forward to more.

Dana

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#12

Teodore with your 3500 members, you could probably hire a full time support person who is actually empathetic instead of dismissive. I would strongly suggest to do that. I love the product, don’t like the support.

#13

Strange that many of our users don’t really share your thoughts about the support we provide:

#14

Pff typical response. You are actually proving my point of you being dismissive.

Horrible response.

#15

I’m sorry you feel the way you feel about the support. The last thing I want to be seen as is “dismissive”. I’m just providing some feedback from the rest of our users, who say one of the best things in Wappler is the support :slight_smile:

In my experience it’s actually you being negative in your replies when we ask for more details about the issues you report. I remember you stopped replying to us saying “I don’t have time to waste explaining more details” :slight_smile:

#16

Neville, the point of the community here is to help each other.

And that is what the big advantage is, sharing experiences and learning from others.

I don’t see how complaining about bad support can help here.

Maybe try to get more involved and also help, just like all others instead of just complaining.

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#17

I sometimes don’t even get a reponse to my questions on the forum, documentation is scarce and sometimes non-existent. I mean I really want to love Wappler, I really do.

But you can’t just dismiss me and others like the_coder just because “you have 3500 member and most of them say it’s great”. Then you dismiss my point of view, instead of trying to understand it.

I’m not wanting to be negative just randomly, why would I do that? But I am a paying customer and I deserve just as much understanding when I am critcal, as I do when I am positive (which I actually am a lot)

#18

George if this was a true grass-roots community of likeminded individuals who came together to talk about something (and I would pay Wappler nothing) then I would agree. But I actually pay you a monthly contribution for using Wappler, so if the community has no solution you should provide a solution. Because I am paying you…

I don’t want to join to a community, this is not my intention with Wappler. I’m paying for the product and what it can do, the community part is not interesting for me personally. I just want support, I want to achieve my goals with Wappler. I have a social life already, I don’t need another community.

I also don’t mind a community of course, I think it’s an added value for lots of users. But personally I just want my problems solved the fastest most efficient way possible. That’s all I care about.

#19

We’re actually trying to help everyone here. If you have not received a reply, that’s probably because we missed your topic/post/question.
Try tagging us in the post so you remind us it’s there.

As for documentation - it would really help if you can just point what is missing there?

Actually the community is a really important part of Wappler. We actually listen to the community and do/change/integrate the options/features which the community needs and requests :slight_smile:
Maybe take a look at:

Then remember that there are companies like Adobe, who NEVER LISTEN to their users.

#20

Ok I will tag and let you know about documenation Teodor.

But guys I’m pleading, just try to understand, instead of just saying “You are being negative”. I have no interest in being negative. I’m just direct and honest, and a bit crude in how I express it sometimes.

I also don’t care what other companies like Adobe do, I am not a customer of them. It has nothing to do with Wappler imo.