Maybe because what this guy (you?) is saying there is the reality of the Wappler community (you including).
You don’t want the team to work on documentation. You don’t want the team to work on tutorials. You don’t want the team to work on community education (partnerships with agencies to create courses, etc). You just want to get your weekly new features release.
So YES : Richard is right, one of the main reason why Wappler is still a niche tool (has everything to be a Unicorn, it’s gold here) is because the community is not friendly, is arrogant, is not into help but into staying together. And the team is also to blame here : they accept it and live with it.
After paying and spending hours on Wappler last year I left for that specific reason : non dev are not welcomed here (and it’s not about subjectivity) but mostly because the documentation was not up to date, no tutorial, spending days about guessing, etc.
You are the kind of person (and not the only one) able to answer to someone asking a question because the documentation sucks and it’s impossible to get the answer anywhere : “search again, Wappler takes time to learn. If you don’t find after few days we will help you”.
**So please stop being arrogant and listen to what people are sharing here (they are a lot of bubblers who came here over the years but most left for the exact same specific reasons I mentioned her).
Nothing new here, it’s a well known issue : Wappler is a dead cause for non dev if there is no deep work and real actions from the team to provide decent documentation and tutorials. **
Maybe it was because bubble owned the market and it wasn’t worth it for them to create it but now that bubble is going out of business soon and we are all leaving maybe this is the perfect time for wepler to reconsider investing more in tutorials so they can catch this wave and ride it but we will see
Learning new stuff is always… Learning! Don’t get me wrong but learning Bubble give you nothing, while learning Wappler gives you knowledge about all aspects of being an individual web-developer: database, hosting, programming language (JavaScript/PHP), etc.
So all “smart guys” who thinks that: I know Bubble - now I’m a web-developer - I have a bad news for them - You know only Bubble!
So yeah - once your mind is opened for learning something new - Wappler community is always welcomes you and will help you!
What you don’t understand and you confirm that one year later you are still in the same mindset.
People want to learn and get courses / tutorials.
Forum is good but most important is to get a whole ecosystem regarding educational ressources.
It’s a never ending story and the reality is that the majority of the boomers here DO NOT WANT THAT because you can’t to keep access to the team daily and get your weekly update.
Your post is arrogant (business as usual here I would say) and the question is not what you learn is how you learn it. Wappler issue is : EDUCATIONAL RESSOURCES. Period.
I hope so but based on the boomers reactions here I have doubt and very little expectation the team to change… they are always following those guys coming from their dreamweaver plugin days. But you are right miracle can happen and this would be amazing because on the paper Wappler has everything we are looking for (this is why I tried to switch and spent 100s of hours and dollars here).
I don’t get this “lack of educational resources” wining. Those 3 links can teach you all the basics - and rest you’ll get it by your own. Of course if you are willing to learn.
this is the problem, we are not in the 70s anymore boomer and people are ready to pay for courses and all those things.
Those things didn’t even existed 9 months ago… and the documentation was not even up to date with the new version.
Learning the basic is one thing but this will never make you able to build what you used to built on bubble.
What you do not understand is that it’s not enough and this is why Wappler is still a micro niche SaaS. Are you able to understand that or it’s too hard for you?
I personally havent had any negative interactions with community (i was non dev and only bubbler). And everyone i have interacted with, has been very helpful. However, i have seen new people trying to come into wappler from bubble.io that post a significant amount into forums with basic questions (nothing wrong with basic questions, just dont flood and take over the forum with them), and being annoyed at the software sayings it hard or its garbage compared to bubble.io. And i think that can be taken as negative to people.
Oh also, try to get use to searching the forum.
With the way bubble.io works, and how everything is predefined on what you can do, its easy to get going and building. all issues and possibilities are show by the ui well.
With the capabilities with wappler, its a completely different beast, with that freedom comes really simple mistakes and vast majority of different errors that can be seen in comparison to bubble, your are legit programming an app and getting full power of that. Majority of my mistakes have been simple stupid mistakes Ive missed.
Wappler can for sure have better learning resources, every platform is going to have their trade offs. But im more than happy to struggle a bit in start, knowing that i have a community that are full of experts for when things do get technically difficult, and fully control of my app and code, and something i know ill always have even if world went to south, i could still host my own app.
I personally will like to help with the education in the future, however i dont believe im at level yet where i should.
What? I’m suprised that some one thinks that Wappler is a Saas! New day - new stuff.
I don’t get your point: you’re willing to pay for free Wappler courses?
Or you’re expecting that some one will do stuff for you?
it’s a team issue… they should allocate ressources and energy to education instead of providing UI color change of the interface (last year the documentation was not up to date but they did weeks of painting works).
Yes, but for me, personally the best learning method if for me to do random tasks and build small things, refactor, break things, and just test endlessly. Its the best method by far, use the tutorials as starting, and then let yourself go into a rabbit hole, in the rabbit hole is where you truely learn and understand concepts.
We are all willing to pay for courses to learn and not only the basics.
This is what made bubble so powerful and grow that much.
I know you don’t want knew people coming into Wappler but for newcomers without this education ecosystem you will have to deal with a lot of whining on the forum as you already complained in the past… Good luck boomer!
I believe that no one here is trying to pushing you to work in Wappler, isn’t it?
And what “education ecosystem” is in Bubble? 12 learning tasks how to create simple CRUD system? Well… That’s “advanced”!
They are 1000s of hours of ressources from bubble but mostly from the ecosystem (from basic to very advances courses). Don’t talk about things you are not aware please.
Let’s all take it easy guys. Nobody is entitled to anything from Wappler. This is a human community and we can come together and try to help each other.
But make no mistake - nobody owes you anything. I’m speaking particularly at you @GlobaticoLabs. Calm the F down. What we have is what we have, nobody owes you anything. Let’s find solutions together and chill the F out.
haha i know how you feel, i still have bubble.io app im still migrating away. Cant wait to get away well before price changing. My monthly would like 5-10x on their new system, thats without growth
I would be grateful to see some links to “1000s of hours of resources”!
Yet again, I don’t get your point, sorry.
You think that there is some “secret sauce”, “password” or a “cheat code” that reveals “true power of Wappler”. But reality is that… You are (The Developer) the secret sauce that makes Wappler so powerful.
just few (some more about security and performance / some more about design and UX / some more about deep features / some more about how to tutorials etc.). It’s just few exemples. Bubble has one of the best educational ecosystem of the no code / low code world. Wappler does not even provide decent basic documentation (at least 9 months ago). Just facts.
We’ve been kicked out of our home.
Show them how it’s done GenZ!